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		<title>By: My First Rodeo</title>
		<link>http://www.thefineprintuf.org/2011/11/08/florida-organic-growers-vs-monsanto/#comment-4693</link>
		<dc:creator>My First Rodeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SHANNAH SCHILIT</title>
		<link>http://www.thefineprintuf.org/2011/11/08/florida-organic-growers-vs-monsanto/#comment-3103</link>
		<dc:creator>SHANNAH SCHILIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FLORIDA Organic Farmers Should Be The ONES Counter-Suing MONSANTO For:
a) Contaminating Our pure seed
b) Contaminating Our Environment with pollutants
c) Robbing Our fiscal-earning power--since NO Conscientious Person wants to BUY GMO-Products as BANS on GMO Imports and Exports are Exponentially Growing
d) Holocaust of Farmers: Monsantos Infamous Tactics ULTIMATELY Pushing The Farmer off His Own Land by means of &quot;settlement&quot;...and for MANY farmers--this is a Severe Devastation impossible to grow beyond--for Organic Lovers of Earth Farmers--there is NO Life without Our Farm!--Our Fruit and Our God and Our Seed and Our Roots which are Sacred ONE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FLORIDA Organic Farmers Should Be The ONES Counter-Suing MONSANTO For:<br />
a) Contaminating Our pure seed<br />
b) Contaminating Our Environment with pollutants<br />
c) Robbing Our fiscal-earning power&#8211;since NO Conscientious Person wants to BUY GMO-Products as BANS on GMO Imports and Exports are Exponentially Growing<br />
d) Holocaust of Farmers: Monsantos Infamous Tactics ULTIMATELY Pushing The Farmer off His Own Land by means of &#8220;settlement&#8221;&#8230;and for MANY farmers&#8211;this is a Severe Devastation impossible to grow beyond&#8211;for Organic Lovers of Earth Farmers&#8211;there is NO Life without Our Farm!&#8211;Our Fruit and Our God and Our Seed and Our Roots which are Sacred ONE</p>
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		<title>By: KIRO</title>
		<link>http://www.thefineprintuf.org/2011/11/08/florida-organic-growers-vs-monsanto/#comment-2576</link>
		<dc:creator>KIRO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monsanto should shut down and the world would be a better place. Living in harmony with nature is possible, going against it is ignorant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monsanto should shut down and the world would be a better place. Living in harmony with nature is possible, going against it is ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Taksier</title>
		<link>http://www.thefineprintuf.org/2011/11/08/florida-organic-growers-vs-monsanto/#comment-1966</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Taksier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 00:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jan,

You&#039;re making an extremely one-sided claim, and you&#039;re not providing any facts to back it up. I&#039;m not saying you&#039;re wrong, but I think it&#039;s worth noting that the U.N. Environment Program, the U.N. Conference on Trade and Development, and the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization would directly and consistently disagree with you:

&quot;Organic agriculture can increase agricultural productivity and can raise incomes with low-cost, locally available and appropriate technologies, without causing environmental damage. Furthermore, evidence shows that organic agriculture can build up natural resources, strengthen communities and improve human capacity, thus improving food security by addressing many different causal factors simultaneously ... Organic and near-organic agricultural methods and technologies are ideally suited for many poor, marginalized smallholder farmers in Africa, as they require minimal or no external inputs, use locally and naturally available materials to produce high-quality products, and encourage a whole systemic approach to farming that is more diverse and resistant to stress.&quot;

-- &quot;Organic Agriculture and Food Security in Africa,&quot; U.N. Environment Program and U.N. Conference on Trade and Development, 2008

The International Assessment of Agricultural Knowledge, Science and Technology for Development (IAASTD), a three-year project led by 400 scientists and development experts (organized by the World Bank, World Health Organization, and United Nations) concluded that organic farming techniques are just as important in solving the world&#039;s hunger crisis as conventional techniques. The IAASTD was so unenthusiastic about G.M. seeds that Croplife International (a trade group for the biotech industry) angrily pulled its support just before the study was published, as did the U.S. government (hm... lobbying? Monsanto does a lot of that).

The U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) pointed out in 2008 that &quot;ecological agriculture&quot; (A.K.A. organic and local farming) could &quot;assist farmers in adapting to climate change&quot; by making farm fields more resilient to stress. In the same year, the FAO listed a variety of reasons eco-agriculture hasn&#039;t caught on yet:

&quot;[L]ack of policy support at local, national, regional and international levels, resource and capacity constraints, and a lack of awareness and inadequate information, training and research on ecological agriculture at all levels.&quot;

I&#039;m not saying conventional agriculture is evil or that it should be outlawed. What I am saying is that the industry-propagated idea that only industrial agriculture can feed the world can be easily debunked:

http://www.grist.org/industrial-agriculture/2011-03-10-debunking-myth-that-only-industrial-agriculture-can-feed-world]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re making an extremely one-sided claim, and you&#8217;re not providing any facts to back it up. I&#8217;m not saying you&#8217;re wrong, but I think it&#8217;s worth noting that the U.N. Environment Program, the U.N. Conference on Trade and Development, and the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization would directly and consistently disagree with you:</p>
<p>&#8220;Organic agriculture can increase agricultural productivity and can raise incomes with low-cost, locally available and appropriate technologies, without causing environmental damage. Furthermore, evidence shows that organic agriculture can build up natural resources, strengthen communities and improve human capacity, thus improving food security by addressing many different causal factors simultaneously &#8230; Organic and near-organic agricultural methods and technologies are ideally suited for many poor, marginalized smallholder farmers in Africa, as they require minimal or no external inputs, use locally and naturally available materials to produce high-quality products, and encourage a whole systemic approach to farming that is more diverse and resistant to stress.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; &#8220;Organic Agriculture and Food Security in Africa,&#8221; U.N. Environment Program and U.N. Conference on Trade and Development, 2008</p>
<p>The International Assessment of Agricultural Knowledge, Science and Technology for Development (IAASTD), a three-year project led by 400 scientists and development experts (organized by the World Bank, World Health Organization, and United Nations) concluded that organic farming techniques are just as important in solving the world&#8217;s hunger crisis as conventional techniques. The IAASTD was so unenthusiastic about G.M. seeds that Croplife International (a trade group for the biotech industry) angrily pulled its support just before the study was published, as did the U.S. government (hm&#8230; lobbying? Monsanto does a lot of that).</p>
<p>The U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) pointed out in 2008 that &#8220;ecological agriculture&#8221; (A.K.A. organic and local farming) could &#8220;assist farmers in adapting to climate change&#8221; by making farm fields more resilient to stress. In the same year, the FAO listed a variety of reasons eco-agriculture hasn&#8217;t caught on yet:</p>
<p>&#8220;[L]ack of policy support at local, national, regional and international levels, resource and capacity constraints, and a lack of awareness and inadequate information, training and research on ecological agriculture at all levels.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying conventional agriculture is evil or that it should be outlawed. What I am saying is that the industry-propagated idea that only industrial agriculture can feed the world can be easily debunked:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.grist.org/industrial-agriculture/2011-03-10-debunking-myth-that-only-industrial-agriculture-can-feed-world" rel="nofollow">http://www.grist.org/industrial-agriculture/2011-03-10-debunking-myth-that-only-industrial-agriculture-can-feed-world</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lydia Fiser</title>
		<link>http://www.thefineprintuf.org/2011/11/08/florida-organic-growers-vs-monsanto/#comment-1964</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia Fiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 22:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a very controversal issue, as we know. But to say something is impossible is short sighted. Here is an NGO working to make organic farming work on a large scale (http://www.navdanya.org/). The idea is locally based, smaller farms, but more of them to feed a growing population. Farms dedicated to their own communities, not to people in far-away lands, which is how corporate ag works. Either way, we all have to eat and sometimes it takes a little bit of all ideas to make it work. But right now, there&#039;s too much starvation in the world to not keep trying. And the point of this article (and the law suit), is not whether GMO is better or worse than organic, it&#039;s about the rights of farmers to choose one method over the other and not be punished when nature acts in ways that the farmers can&#039;t control. It&#039;s about the idea that we as humans have decided that we can patent LIFE -- something that we did not create. It&#039;s about farmers&#039; democratic freedoms. And it&#039;s about a giant corporation getting more freedom, respect and legal protection than thousands of farmers all over the U.S. (and the world).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very controversal issue, as we know. But to say something is impossible is short sighted. Here is an NGO working to make organic farming work on a large scale (<a href="http://www.navdanya.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.navdanya.org/</a>). The idea is locally based, smaller farms, but more of them to feed a growing population. Farms dedicated to their own communities, not to people in far-away lands, which is how corporate ag works. Either way, we all have to eat and sometimes it takes a little bit of all ideas to make it work. But right now, there&#8217;s too much starvation in the world to not keep trying. And the point of this article (and the law suit), is not whether GMO is better or worse than organic, it&#8217;s about the rights of farmers to choose one method over the other and not be punished when nature acts in ways that the farmers can&#8217;t control. It&#8217;s about the idea that we as humans have decided that we can patent LIFE &#8212; something that we did not create. It&#8217;s about farmers&#8217; democratic freedoms. And it&#8217;s about a giant corporation getting more freedom, respect and legal protection than thousands of farmers all over the U.S. (and the world).</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Charles Potter</title>
		<link>http://www.thefineprintuf.org/2011/11/08/florida-organic-growers-vs-monsanto/#comment-1963</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Charles Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is too bad there is such misinformation concerning world food production. Organic farming is great but just will not work for a world-wide food supply. People must understand to have enough food for the world supply there must be large corporate farms using chemicals and fertilizers.  Organic farming is fine on very local scale but to avoid world-wide famine organic farming simply will not work and if anyone says differently they simply don&#039;t know the facts and aren&#039;t telling the truth!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is too bad there is such misinformation concerning world food production. Organic farming is great but just will not work for a world-wide food supply. People must understand to have enough food for the world supply there must be large corporate farms using chemicals and fertilizers.  Organic farming is fine on very local scale but to avoid world-wide famine organic farming simply will not work and if anyone says differently they simply don&#8217;t know the facts and aren&#8217;t telling the truth!</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Taksier</title>
		<link>http://www.thefineprintuf.org/2011/11/08/florida-organic-growers-vs-monsanto/#comment-1955</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Taksier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony,

What you&#039;re saying is very informative, but how does it relate to the lawsuit I&#039;m talking about? Or are you responding in a more general sense to the anti-Monsanto tone of my post?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>What you&#8217;re saying is very informative, but how does it relate to the lawsuit I&#8217;m talking about? Or are you responding in a more general sense to the anti-Monsanto tone of my post?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.thefineprintuf.org/2011/11/08/florida-organic-growers-vs-monsanto/#comment-1954</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How Sweet It Is: Monsanto’s Bt Sweet Corn
Posted on November 9, 2011 by The Farmer&#039;s Life
Big, evil corporate giant (read with sarcasm) Monsanto has a new product coming to market according to its blog Beyond the Rows.  Sweet corn genetically modified to express the Bt insecticide trait that prevails in much of the conventional corn market.  This trait allows the plant to create a toxin that is harmful to certain pests that try to eat it.

Now you’ll find a lot of naysayers in the all-natural food and environmentalist movements.  There’s all kinds of places online where you can find people making all sorts of horrible predictions about GMO crops and super weeds and bugs, etc.  I happen to find it’s often the case that environmental activists often refuse or do not want to see the benefit of a new technology.

They will tell you that the “industrial” type of row crop farming that I do consumes more resources that it produces, when the fact is we are producing more all the time with less inputs thanks to technologies like the Bt toxin.

Here’s what Monsanto has to say about Bt:

“The Bt proteins in our corn are considered an environmentally-friendly way to control insects, because they are toxic only to a few specific types of insect pest. The Bt proteins and the bacterium that produces them are found naturally in soil.  In fact, Bt proteins are used by organic growers to control these same insect pests; Bt proteins are the active ingredient in Dipel, the bio-insecticide most widely used by organic growers.”

Wait a minute.  Organic farmers use Bt too?  Why yes they do.  I believe there is a common misconception by some of the non-farm population that a farm like mine hoses down everything with chemicals and that organic farms don’t use any pesticides.  Neither of those is true.  Keep this in mind while you are reading.  I DO NOT take issue with organic farming.  I only take issue with those who make false claims about what I do to make a living.

I don’t grow any sweet corn, but I do grow corn with the Bt trait so this new product is of interest to me.  How can this new product be good for the environment?  It allows the farmer to make less passes across the field for one thing.  The need to treat for pests is greatly reduced meaning a farmer doesn’t have to make another trip across a field in a sprayer for application of insecticide.  That’s less insecticide applied, less fuel for the sprayer, fewer hours on the sprayer slowing its rate of depreciation, less compaction in the field and so on.

You might wonder about those super bugs I mentioned earlier.  Stands to reason if we go after all the pests with Bt, eventually resistance will build up.  I covered that in Genetic Refugees.  Now it is true that there are reports of some insects showing resistance, but one of the reasons may be that not all farmers are doing their part planting refuge acres.  They should be.  They are doing themselves and the rest of us a disservice by choosing not to plant a refuge.  There are already rumblings of regulatory changes in this area.  Farmers may need to show what seed they have purchased in order to show they purchased refuge varieties as well.  I’m not a big fan of more government intervention, but I think this kind of thing is what government is for.  Seed companies are at the forefront on this issue as well since they are beginning to provide refuge in a bag.  That’s where up to 95% of the corn in a bag of seed is a traited variety and the remainder is a refuge.  A simpler process than having two different bags.  Although that’s not hard to figure out either.  We do it all the time.

The biggest news to me on the Monsanto blog post wasn’t that they now have GMO sweet corn, but how much less insecticide could potentially be applied to sweet corn acreage with this new hybrid.

“Sweet corn makes up less than one percent of total corn acreage in the United States (field corn and sweet corn), yet accounts for 40% of all corn insecticide treatments. Our sweet corn allows farmers to reduce insecticide use by up to 85 percent while still providing fresh, tasty ears of the product.” 

Seems to me that kind of puts a dent in the “Big Ag” companies only genetically modifying seeds to sell more chemicals.  How about them apples?  Let me know what you think in the comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How Sweet It Is: Monsanto’s Bt Sweet Corn<br />
Posted on November 9, 2011 by The Farmer&#8217;s Life<br />
Big, evil corporate giant (read with sarcasm) Monsanto has a new product coming to market according to its blog Beyond the Rows.  Sweet corn genetically modified to express the Bt insecticide trait that prevails in much of the conventional corn market.  This trait allows the plant to create a toxin that is harmful to certain pests that try to eat it.</p>
<p>Now you’ll find a lot of naysayers in the all-natural food and environmentalist movements.  There’s all kinds of places online where you can find people making all sorts of horrible predictions about GMO crops and super weeds and bugs, etc.  I happen to find it’s often the case that environmental activists often refuse or do not want to see the benefit of a new technology.</p>
<p>They will tell you that the “industrial” type of row crop farming that I do consumes more resources that it produces, when the fact is we are producing more all the time with less inputs thanks to technologies like the Bt toxin.</p>
<p>Here’s what Monsanto has to say about Bt:</p>
<p>“The Bt proteins in our corn are considered an environmentally-friendly way to control insects, because they are toxic only to a few specific types of insect pest. The Bt proteins and the bacterium that produces them are found naturally in soil.  In fact, Bt proteins are used by organic growers to control these same insect pests; Bt proteins are the active ingredient in Dipel, the bio-insecticide most widely used by organic growers.”</p>
<p>Wait a minute.  Organic farmers use Bt too?  Why yes they do.  I believe there is a common misconception by some of the non-farm population that a farm like mine hoses down everything with chemicals and that organic farms don’t use any pesticides.  Neither of those is true.  Keep this in mind while you are reading.  I DO NOT take issue with organic farming.  I only take issue with those who make false claims about what I do to make a living.</p>
<p>I don’t grow any sweet corn, but I do grow corn with the Bt trait so this new product is of interest to me.  How can this new product be good for the environment?  It allows the farmer to make less passes across the field for one thing.  The need to treat for pests is greatly reduced meaning a farmer doesn’t have to make another trip across a field in a sprayer for application of insecticide.  That’s less insecticide applied, less fuel for the sprayer, fewer hours on the sprayer slowing its rate of depreciation, less compaction in the field and so on.</p>
<p>You might wonder about those super bugs I mentioned earlier.  Stands to reason if we go after all the pests with Bt, eventually resistance will build up.  I covered that in Genetic Refugees.  Now it is true that there are reports of some insects showing resistance, but one of the reasons may be that not all farmers are doing their part planting refuge acres.  They should be.  They are doing themselves and the rest of us a disservice by choosing not to plant a refuge.  There are already rumblings of regulatory changes in this area.  Farmers may need to show what seed they have purchased in order to show they purchased refuge varieties as well.  I’m not a big fan of more government intervention, but I think this kind of thing is what government is for.  Seed companies are at the forefront on this issue as well since they are beginning to provide refuge in a bag.  That’s where up to 95% of the corn in a bag of seed is a traited variety and the remainder is a refuge.  A simpler process than having two different bags.  Although that’s not hard to figure out either.  We do it all the time.</p>
<p>The biggest news to me on the Monsanto blog post wasn’t that they now have GMO sweet corn, but how much less insecticide could potentially be applied to sweet corn acreage with this new hybrid.</p>
<p>“Sweet corn makes up less than one percent of total corn acreage in the United States (field corn and sweet corn), yet accounts for 40% of all corn insecticide treatments. Our sweet corn allows farmers to reduce insecticide use by up to 85 percent while still providing fresh, tasty ears of the product.” </p>
<p>Seems to me that kind of puts a dent in the “Big Ag” companies only genetically modifying seeds to sell more chemicals.  How about them apples?  Let me know what you think in the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.thefineprintuf.org/2011/11/08/florida-organic-growers-vs-monsanto/#comment-1953</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Sweet corn makes up less than one percent of total corn acreage in the United States (field corn and sweet corn), yet accounts for 40% of all corn insecticide treatments. Our sweet corn allows farmers to reduce insecticide use by up to 85 percent while still providing fresh, tasty ears of the product.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Sweet corn makes up less than one percent of total corn acreage in the United States (field corn and sweet corn), yet accounts for 40% of all corn insecticide treatments. Our sweet corn allows farmers to reduce insecticide use by up to 85 percent while still providing fresh, tasty ears of the product.”</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This has nothing to do with Monsanto - they actually sell organic seed]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has nothing to do with Monsanto &#8211; they actually sell organic seed</p>
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